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	<title>Comments on: Kara no Kyoukai #1: Fukan Fuukei (Overlooking View)</title>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gaguri: I tried to alter the aspect ratio in Fireworks, but couldn&#039;t get it to look right however hard I tried. It&#039;s annoying when the visuals are so lovely! I can see why Shiki&#039;s popular but she doesn&#039;t look very moe to me at all! Odd.

@DiGiKerot: I&#039;m relieved that there are plenty of people enjoying this, but I can understand how writing about what actually *happens* could be problematic (I purposefully avoided it here!) I&#039;d still like to read what you have to say about it though. ^_^

@Zyl: cheers for the links. I&#039;ve kept the original screenies on my HD so I&#039;ll have a go at resizing them and edit them into the post if it works out. EDIT: it worked. Cheers!

@Sorrow-kun: morality crops up a lot in Type-Moon stuff; maybe I was expecting it here since the visual novels feature it so prominently. The anime adaptations of their stuff are alright but KnK seems to be the most respected because, as far as I can tell, it&#039;s considered to be the most faithful. I&#039;d love to read the novels.

@KT Kore: good to see you&#039;re still around! I&#039;m guessing KnK #5 is rated so highly because it&#039;s fairly recent but the reviews I&#039;ve seen have been overwhelmingly positive. I can&#039;t wait! If this first episode is anything to go by I&#039;d say it&#039;sthe best Type Moon anime adaptation of the lot actually.

@schneider: I can&#039;t believe Nasu is ashamed of this, although writers are often very self-critical, especially in terms of their earlier works. The recurring nature of the themes and ideas suggests to me that he&#039;s still striving to improve though.

@Gen: I noticed the puppet reference too. Then I saw Shiki wearing that familiar yellow coat and grinned from ear to ear!

@TheBigN: definitely. My theory is also that &#039;condensing&#039; the multi-threaded visual novel narrative is difficult but traditional novels are a more tried-and-tested source for a film, and more straightforward from a screenplay writing point of view too. Tsukihime and F/S N missed out so much! I&#039;ll be interested to see how effective the timeline-hopping is in this one, because that sort of thing usually confuses the hell out of me!

@Hige: knowledge of the others stories is nice for spotting references but it isn&#039;t essential to appreciate this on its own terms; much like Macross really. Don&#039;t expect to understand it either - just enjoy the gorgeousness! I hope you enjoy it, at least - the soundtrack is gorgeous too BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gaguri: I tried to alter the aspect ratio in Fireworks, but couldn&#8217;t get it to look right however hard I tried. It&#8217;s annoying when the visuals are so lovely! I can see why Shiki&#8217;s popular but she doesn&#8217;t look very moe to me at all! Odd.</p>
<p>@DiGiKerot: I&#8217;m relieved that there are plenty of people enjoying this, but I can understand how writing about what actually *happens* could be problematic (I purposefully avoided it here!) I&#8217;d still like to read what you have to say about it though. ^_^</p>
<p>@Zyl: cheers for the links. I&#8217;ve kept the original screenies on my HD so I&#8217;ll have a go at resizing them and edit them into the post if it works out. EDIT: it worked. Cheers!</p>
<p>@Sorrow-kun: morality crops up a lot in Type-Moon stuff; maybe I was expecting it here since the visual novels feature it so prominently. The anime adaptations of their stuff are alright but KnK seems to be the most respected because, as far as I can tell, it&#8217;s considered to be the most faithful. I&#8217;d love to read the novels.</p>
<p>@KT Kore: good to see you&#8217;re still around! I&#8217;m guessing KnK #5 is rated so highly because it&#8217;s fairly recent but the reviews I&#8217;ve seen have been overwhelmingly positive. I can&#8217;t wait! If this first episode is anything to go by I&#8217;d say it&#8217;sthe best Type Moon anime adaptation of the lot actually.</p>
<p>@schneider: I can&#8217;t believe Nasu is ashamed of this, although writers are often very self-critical, especially in terms of their earlier works. The recurring nature of the themes and ideas suggests to me that he&#8217;s still striving to improve though.</p>
<p>@Gen: I noticed the puppet reference too. Then I saw Shiki wearing that familiar yellow coat and grinned from ear to ear!</p>
<p>@TheBigN: definitely. My theory is also that &#8216;condensing&#8217; the multi-threaded visual novel narrative is difficult but traditional novels are a more tried-and-tested source for a film, and more straightforward from a screenplay writing point of view too. Tsukihime and F/S N missed out so much! I&#8217;ll be interested to see how effective the timeline-hopping is in this one, because that sort of thing usually confuses the hell out of me!</p>
<p>@Hige: knowledge of the others stories is nice for spotting references but it isn&#8217;t essential to appreciate this on its own terms; much like Macross really. Don&#8217;t expect to understand it either &#8211; just enjoy the gorgeousness! I hope you enjoy it, at least &#8211; the soundtrack is gorgeous too BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Hige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that this thing has a &#039;universe&#039; of associated fiction is a little off-putting, but as soon as you said the word &#039;grungey&#039; and I saw the screenshots I was sold. I&#039;m probably going to be more bewildered than you were, but like you say, why&#039;s that a bad thing? Comprehension is for wimps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that this thing has a &#8216;universe&#8217; of associated fiction is a little off-putting, but as soon as you said the word &#8216;grungey&#8217; and I saw the screenshots I was sold. I&#8217;m probably going to be more bewildered than you were, but like you say, why&#8217;s that a bad thing? Comprehension is for wimps.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigN</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBigN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that all three Type-Moon anime had the ambiance and atmosphere down pat, which I love. But only Kara no Kyoukai seems to have the storytelling aspect of it down, which makes sense considering source materials (KnK coming from a novel, Tsukihime and F/SN from visual novels with different paths making it difficult to create a cohesive story incorporating aspects from all of them). I like all three works, but Kara no Kyoukai definitely wins hands down when comparing the three. :P

Gen: Not to mention Touko&#039;s relation. :3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that all three Type-Moon anime had the ambiance and atmosphere down pat, which I love. But only Kara no Kyoukai seems to have the storytelling aspect of it down, which makes sense considering source materials (KnK coming from a novel, Tsukihime and F/SN from visual novels with different paths making it difficult to create a cohesive story incorporating aspects from all of them). I like all three works, but Kara no Kyoukai definitely wins hands down when comparing the three. :P</p>
<p>Gen: Not to mention Touko&#8217;s relation. :3</p>
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		<title>By: Gen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the reoccurring themes and setting, it&#039;s pretty much intentional on Type-Moon&#039;s part. Tsukihime/KnK/FSN exist in the same universe and there are instances where they reference each other. A certain &quot;puppet master&quot; was mention in the epilogue of the Heavens Feel route to F/SN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the reoccurring themes and setting, it&#8217;s pretty much intentional on Type-Moon&#8217;s part. Tsukihime/KnK/FSN exist in the same universe and there are instances where they reference each other. A certain &#8220;puppet master&#8221; was mention in the epilogue of the Heavens Feel route to F/SN.</p>
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		<title>By: schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I count myself lucky for running into KnK very early (just when the F/SN anime was airing) and waited for the movies patiently when they were announced. I never saw the F/SN anime, and dropped the Tsukihime one because it bored me. KnK, however, is &lt;em&gt;godly&lt;/em&gt;, for something Nasu is ashamed of having written in the first place. As for the other movies, 2 is rather cute in a disturbing way, 3 is extreme, 4 is hilarious, and 5 is beautiful mindfuck. Can&#039;t wait for the last few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I count myself lucky for running into KnK very early (just when the F/SN anime was airing) and waited for the movies patiently when they were announced. I never saw the F/SN anime, and dropped the Tsukihime one because it bored me. KnK, however, is <em>godly</em>, for something Nasu is ashamed of having written in the first place. As for the other movies, 2 is rather cute in a disturbing way, 3 is extreme, 4 is hilarious, and 5 is beautiful mindfuck. Can&#8217;t wait for the last few.</p>
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		<title>By: KT Kore</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT Kore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t known anything about this movie series until I looked on MAL&#039;s top anime list and saw that the fifth movie in this series was listed at NUMBER ONE. lol

I might have to check them out one day. Type-Moon stuff hasn&#039;t really done well with me in the past, but I&#039;m always willing to give stuff a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t known anything about this movie series until I looked on MAL&#8217;s top anime list and saw that the fifth movie in this series was listed at NUMBER ONE. lol</p>
<p>I might have to check them out one day. Type-Moon stuff hasn&#8217;t really done well with me in the past, but I&#8217;m always willing to give stuff a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorrow-kun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorrow-kun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you brought up morality, since I&#039;ve seen Kara no Kyoukai as something of an analysis of morality from a very interesting perspective, ie, from the point of view of murderers and other &quot;bad&quot; people.  It&#039;s less about an absence of morality as it is about a twisting of morality, which is what makes it so much more fascinating.  The idea becomes really prominent in the third film, so I&#039;m impressed you spotted it in the first one.  I guess you probably have more experience with Type Moon sources than I do (ie, none... all my experiences with Type Moon works come from the &quot;questionable&quot; anime adaptations).

All I can say is, look forward to the fifth film.  It blew my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you brought up morality, since I&#8217;ve seen Kara no Kyoukai as something of an analysis of morality from a very interesting perspective, ie, from the point of view of murderers and other &#8220;bad&#8221; people.  It&#8217;s less about an absence of morality as it is about a twisting of morality, which is what makes it so much more fascinating.  The idea becomes really prominent in the third film, so I&#8217;m impressed you spotted it in the first one.  I guess you probably have more experience with Type Moon sources than I do (ie, none&#8230; all my experiences with Type Moon works come from the &#8220;questionable&#8221; anime adaptations).</p>
<p>All I can say is, look forward to the fifth film.  It blew my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screenies. I had the same problem so I had to manually adjust the proportions (Photoshop - Image - Image Size - uncheck Constrain Proportions - set the width and height to 16:9 proportions, in your case it should be width 450 px and height 253 px.)

Where&#039;s the love? &lt;a href=&quot;http://karmaburn.com/?cat=117&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Evirus&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atalude.net/archives/category/kara-no-kyoukai/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shin&lt;/a&gt;? Surprisingly none of the big three episodic blogs (RC, Subculture and Tenka Seiha) cover it though.

Personally I&#039;ve immensely enjoyed all five movies thus far but it&#039;s hard to get a good grip on the series, especially when the broadcast order shuffles the chronologically order, waiting for all seven to be out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screenies. I had the same problem so I had to manually adjust the proportions (Photoshop &#8211; Image &#8211; Image Size &#8211; uncheck Constrain Proportions &#8211; set the width and height to 16:9 proportions, in your case it should be width 450 px and height 253 px.)</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the love? <a href="http://karmaburn.com/?cat=117" rel="nofollow">Evirus</a> and <a href="http://www.atalude.net/archives/category/kara-no-kyoukai/" rel="nofollow">Shin</a>? Surprisingly none of the big three episodic blogs (RC, Subculture and Tenka Seiha) cover it though.</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;ve immensely enjoyed all five movies thus far but it&#8217;s hard to get a good grip on the series, especially when the broadcast order shuffles the chronologically order, waiting for all seven to be out.</p>
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		<title>By: DiGiKerot</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiGiKerot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do kind of wonder if people are just less inclined to download anime movies than they are TV shows - I mean, there&#039;s the whole &quot;I&#039;m just watching what Japanese can watch for free&quot; thing with TV anime, but perhaps more importantly there&#039;s a tendency for a lot of a lot of anime features to be pretty bad these days, and the file size and download commitments may be more than the more bandwidth-restricted fans to want to devote to downloading something of unknown quality.

That said, in the case of Kara no Kyouaki, I&#039;m not sure if the reason you don&#039;t hear so much about it is that it&#039;s just kind of hard to write about - the movies are fairly slow going, yet surprisingly dense for features where not a whole lot technically happens. There&#039;s a lot of non-linear storytelling (particularly in the later movies) and other factors that make it a difficult title to approach for those bloggers who tend to write summaries, whilst the characters aren&#039;t really the sort many other bloggers write about. It&#039;s a work that requires a significant amount of thought to be put into to come up with something worthwhile to say about it, and I honestly think that most people either can&#039;t be bothered or feel they don&#039;t have the mental dexterity required to adequately talk about the pictures (in my case, it&#039;s very much a combination of both ^^;)

This isn&#039;t to say that I don&#039;t think that people aren&#039;t watching it and enjoying it - from my own point of view, I think this is the most I&#039;ve ever written on the subject, yet I&#039;ve been actively collecting the Japanese LE DVDs upon their release and enjoying them hugely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do kind of wonder if people are just less inclined to download anime movies than they are TV shows &#8211; I mean, there&#8217;s the whole &#8220;I&#8217;m just watching what Japanese can watch for free&#8221; thing with TV anime, but perhaps more importantly there&#8217;s a tendency for a lot of a lot of anime features to be pretty bad these days, and the file size and download commitments may be more than the more bandwidth-restricted fans to want to devote to downloading something of unknown quality.</p>
<p>That said, in the case of Kara no Kyouaki, I&#8217;m not sure if the reason you don&#8217;t hear so much about it is that it&#8217;s just kind of hard to write about &#8211; the movies are fairly slow going, yet surprisingly dense for features where not a whole lot technically happens. There&#8217;s a lot of non-linear storytelling (particularly in the later movies) and other factors that make it a difficult title to approach for those bloggers who tend to write summaries, whilst the characters aren&#8217;t really the sort many other bloggers write about. It&#8217;s a work that requires a significant amount of thought to be put into to come up with something worthwhile to say about it, and I honestly think that most people either can&#8217;t be bothered or feel they don&#8217;t have the mental dexterity required to adequately talk about the pictures (in my case, it&#8217;s very much a combination of both ^^;)</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to say that I don&#8217;t think that people aren&#8217;t watching it and enjoying it &#8211; from my own point of view, I think this is the most I&#8217;ve ever written on the subject, yet I&#8217;ve been actively collecting the Japanese LE DVDs upon their release and enjoying them hugely.</p>
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		<title>By: gaguri</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaguri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That proportion problem with screens I&#039;ve been experiencing too. I use media classic player, which I found very convenient because you only need to press one button (F5) and it automatically saves the screen in a jpeg format. But sometimes with certain titles, it screws up by saving it in a wrong proportion that seems to &#039;squeeze&#039; the picture horizontally. O well...

From what I hear Kara no Kyoukai as a series (of movies) doesn&#039;t fly that well until it comes to its 5th instalment. My main interest in this comes from the fact that the character of Shiki is very popular in Korea for some reason (IIRC, she was one of the stronger contestants in Korean &lt;strong&gt;Moe&lt;/strong&gt; tournament)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That proportion problem with screens I&#8217;ve been experiencing too. I use media classic player, which I found very convenient because you only need to press one button (F5) and it automatically saves the screen in a jpeg format. But sometimes with certain titles, it screws up by saving it in a wrong proportion that seems to &#8217;squeeze&#8217; the picture horizontally. O well&#8230;</p>
<p>From what I hear Kara no Kyoukai as a series (of movies) doesn&#8217;t fly that well until it comes to its 5th instalment. My main interest in this comes from the fact that the character of Shiki is very popular in Korea for some reason (IIRC, she was one of the stronger contestants in Korean <strong>Moe</strong> tournament)</p>
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