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		<title>By: Hourai Neetwork - NEET Sign 「Imperishable Blogging」 » Life in Mono</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hourai Neetwork - NEET Sign 「Imperishable Blogging」 » Life in Mono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] une review complète de leur dernier album [-&gt;] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: OGT</title>
		<link>http://mononoaware.concretebadger.net/2009/03/27/mono-hymn-to-the-immortal-wind/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>OGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin: Sound Horizon is like a giant pan-doujin-music-world group; the only thing they seem to lack as of right now is getting Akiko Shikata and maybe Chata on board.

Personally I say you should try Moira first, the more recent the Sound Horizon album the better it tends to be. I like all their commercially-released albums, though, that I&#039;ve heard (Elysion~楽園幻想物語組曲~, Roman, and Moira, as well as the singles and such), but I always found that I needed an adjustment period for each album musically (they can be HUGELY disparate and different). Any of those three should be a good starting point (unless you want to start way back at the beginning with Chronicle before Revo could even afford a vocalist), and Aramary, the Elysion vocalist, left after that album and Revo simply got more vocalists to replace her, and that broadened the sound even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin: Sound Horizon is like a giant pan-doujin-music-world group; the only thing they seem to lack as of right now is getting Akiko Shikata and maybe Chata on board.</p>
<p>Personally I say you should try Moira first, the more recent the Sound Horizon album the better it tends to be. I like all their commercially-released albums, though, that I&#8217;ve heard (Elysion~楽園幻想物語組曲~, Roman, and Moira, as well as the singles and such), but I always found that I needed an adjustment period for each album musically (they can be HUGELY disparate and different). Any of those three should be a good starting point (unless you want to start way back at the beginning with Chronicle before Revo could even afford a vocalist), and Aramary, the Elysion vocalist, left after that album and Revo simply got more vocalists to replace her, and that broadened the sound even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@OGT: wow, I just had a quick skim through Sound Horizon&#039;s Wiki page and yeah...that&#039;s a pretty impressive project (I noticed one or two familiar names too, surprisingly for me). Will have a look over on Jpopsuki or Last.fm for some of their stuff. Thanks for the rec!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@OGT: wow, I just had a quick skim through Sound Horizon&#8217;s Wiki page and yeah&#8230;that&#8217;s a pretty impressive project (I noticed one or two familiar names too, surprisingly for me). Will have a look over on Jpopsuki or Last.fm for some of their stuff. Thanks for the rec!</p>
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		<title>By: OGT</title>
		<link>http://mononoaware.concretebadger.net/2009/03/27/mono-hymn-to-the-immortal-wind/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>OGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin: The A - B - A&#039; - B - C - A[&#039;&#039;] structure and its variants are pretty fixed these days as far as songwriting goes. Not that there&#039;s an inherent problem with a rondo-style song structure, or that non-rondo-style song structures are inherently better, but variance is the spice of life.

Honestly, when it comes to &quot;look what you can do with a guitar that&#039;s not like what everyone ELSE does with a guitar!&quot; I prefer Sound Horizon over Mono on the simple principle that they took &quot;rock opera&quot; to an entirely new level, one that&#039;s far more opera than rock. I honestly think they&#039;re the hardest band I know of to tidily categorize into a single genre: their Wikipedia entry page cracks me up because there&#039;s a list of at least 15 different genres for their music, none of which are wrong. I do this mostly because I&#039;m a Revo fanboy and like doujin music way more than I should, but when I can go from Gothic-ish-visual-kei-ish metal to Russian polkas to a cross-genre opera with occasional electric guitar and bass, well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin: The A &#8211; B &#8211; A&#8217; &#8211; B &#8211; C &#8211; A[''] structure and its variants are pretty fixed these days as far as songwriting goes. Not that there&#8217;s an inherent problem with a rondo-style song structure, or that non-rondo-style song structures are inherently better, but variance is the spice of life.</p>
<p>Honestly, when it comes to &#8220;look what you can do with a guitar that&#8217;s not like what everyone ELSE does with a guitar!&#8221; I prefer Sound Horizon over Mono on the simple principle that they took &#8220;rock opera&#8221; to an entirely new level, one that&#8217;s far more opera than rock. I honestly think they&#8217;re the hardest band I know of to tidily categorize into a single genre: their Wikipedia entry page cracks me up because there&#8217;s a list of at least 15 different genres for their music, none of which are wrong. I do this mostly because I&#8217;m a Revo fanboy and like doujin music way more than I should, but when I can go from Gothic-ish-visual-kei-ish metal to Russian polkas to a cross-genre opera with occasional electric guitar and bass, well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://mononoaware.concretebadger.net/2009/03/27/mono-hymn-to-the-immortal-wind/comment-page-1/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@madeener: I&#039;ve just looked Toe up on Last.FM (man, I love that site) and they sound like they might be up my street. Cheers for the recommendation! Interesting to see Spangle Call Lilli Line and Acidman on the &#039;similar artists&#039; list since I&#039;ve got into those recently too.

@lastarial: when I think of orchestra + rock band I immediately think of Metallica&#039;s S&amp;M live album, which had its moments of brilliance but was recorded during something of a low point in their career. In HttIW&#039;s case though the two contrasting elements work perfectly. I actually come from a alt-rock background (three chords, blues solos and plenty of angst!) but I appreciate a bit of classical too...two disparate tastes that unusually collide here! Sadly I missed them live in the UK this time around but if they are touring back in Japan when I&#039;m over there in May I&#039;d love to catch them then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@madeener: I&#8217;ve just looked Toe up on Last.FM (man, I love that site) and they sound like they might be up my street. Cheers for the recommendation! Interesting to see Spangle Call Lilli Line and Acidman on the &#8216;similar artists&#8217; list since I&#8217;ve got into those recently too.</p>
<p>@lastarial: when I think of orchestra + rock band I immediately think of Metallica&#8217;s S&#038;M live album, which had its moments of brilliance but was recorded during something of a low point in their career. In HttIW&#8217;s case though the two contrasting elements work perfectly. I actually come from a alt-rock background (three chords, blues solos and plenty of angst!) but I appreciate a bit of classical too&#8230;two disparate tastes that unusually collide here! Sadly I missed them live in the UK this time around but if they are touring back in Japan when I&#8217;m over there in May I&#8217;d love to catch them then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lastarial</title>
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		<dc:creator>lastarial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strangely enough, I didn&#039;t find the new album as accessible as you guys, but this might be because I came to Mono from a harder noise rock background. It must also be considered that back in the day the widescale adoption of strings by rock groups was usually a sign of desperation and running out of ideas, although in Mono&#039;s case it is a fairly logical progression.

Did you see them live, Martin? They were &lt;a href=&quot;http://lastarial.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/abide-with-mono/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in London&lt;/a&gt; just a few nights back, and they did a few of their regular UK provincial haunts in the week before that. They were very good, as ever, although the general consensus is that the new material took some time to get going. The set list was most of the Hymn album + Halcyon and Yearning (about time Halcyon was dropped for something else really).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strangely enough, I didn&#8217;t find the new album as accessible as you guys, but this might be because I came to Mono from a harder noise rock background. It must also be considered that back in the day the widescale adoption of strings by rock groups was usually a sign of desperation and running out of ideas, although in Mono&#8217;s case it is a fairly logical progression.</p>
<p>Did you see them live, Martin? They were <a href="http://lastarial.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/abide-with-mono/" rel="nofollow">in London</a> just a few nights back, and they did a few of their regular UK provincial haunts in the week before that. They were very good, as ever, although the general consensus is that the new material took some time to get going. The set list was most of the Hymn album + Halcyon and Yearning (about time Halcyon was dropped for something else really).</p>
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		<title>By: madeener</title>
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		<dc:creator>madeener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give &lt;em&gt;toe&lt;/em&gt; a try :D</description>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@OGT: I&#039;m reluctant to categorise bands when their unsuitability for easy categorisation is one of the things I like about them (Mogwai, interestingly, try to distance themselves from the post-rock category!), but Mono are one of the best examples of what can be done with guitar, bass and drums without resorting to the traditional song structures. &quot;classical music with eclectically played rock instrumentation&quot; is probably the neatest way of summing up this record...is it guitar music with an orchestra or orchestral music with guitars?

@Owen S: I&#039;ve heard good things about EitS so will check them out soonish (and will probably curse myself for leaving it so long, as was the case with Mogwai). I love the &#039;narrative&#039; feel of this record - it comes across to me as an occasionally tragic romance story with an epic happy ending.

@Sorrow-kun: thanks ^_^ They really are a band who need more publicity in these parts, but I&#039;m glad to be of help in alerting you to their new &#039;un. You have to hear it ASAP if you&#039;re a fan of theirs, honestly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@OGT: I&#8217;m reluctant to categorise bands when their unsuitability for easy categorisation is one of the things I like about them (Mogwai, interestingly, try to distance themselves from the post-rock category!), but Mono are one of the best examples of what can be done with guitar, bass and drums without resorting to the traditional song structures. &#8220;classical music with eclectically played rock instrumentation&#8221; is probably the neatest way of summing up this record&#8230;is it guitar music with an orchestra or orchestral music with guitars?</p>
<p>@Owen S: I&#8217;ve heard good things about EitS so will check them out soonish (and will probably curse myself for leaving it so long, as was the case with Mogwai). I love the &#8216;narrative&#8217; feel of this record &#8211; it comes across to me as an occasionally tragic romance story with an epic happy ending.</p>
<p>@Sorrow-kun: thanks ^_^ They really are a band who need more publicity in these parts, but I&#8217;m glad to be of help in alerting you to their new &#8216;un. You have to hear it ASAP if you&#8217;re a fan of theirs, honestly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorrow-kun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorrow-kun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You win just for even talking about Mono.  Now that&#039;s a band that deserves more exposure (although that&#039;s nothing new for any band in the post-rock genre).  But I didn&#039;t even realize they had a new album out, which just goes to show how out of touch I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You win just for even talking about Mono.  Now that&#8217;s a band that deserves more exposure (although that&#8217;s nothing new for any band in the post-rock genre).  But I didn&#8217;t even realize they had a new album out, which just goes to show how out of touch I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OGT&#039;s got it good. I had an Explosions in the Sky album as my first post-rock proper (The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place), and while it was good (although I personally prefer The Rescue), it took many listens to warm to, EitS being so damned ambient and whatnot.

As far as Hymn to the Immortal Wind is concerned, though, it&#039;s a winner--its instant accessibility is a plus, and I&#039;m not just talking about Ashes in the Snow, either! I&#039;ve always loved that tabula rasa part of post-rock where &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; ascribe the emotions on the song and not vice-versa, and what I particularly love about the album is how it can seem jubilantly triumphant one day, and heart-rending the next. It&#039;s a mark of all good post-rock, and HttIW succeeds in that regard. Glad to hear you&#039;re as into it as I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OGT&#8217;s got it good. I had an Explosions in the Sky album as my first post-rock proper (The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place), and while it was good (although I personally prefer The Rescue), it took many listens to warm to, EitS being so damned ambient and whatnot.</p>
<p>As far as Hymn to the Immortal Wind is concerned, though, it&#8217;s a winner&#8211;its instant accessibility is a plus, and I&#8217;m not just talking about Ashes in the Snow, either! I&#8217;ve always loved that tabula rasa part of post-rock where <em>you</em> ascribe the emotions on the song and not vice-versa, and what I particularly love about the album is how it can seem jubilantly triumphant one day, and heart-rending the next. It&#8217;s a mark of all good post-rock, and HttIW succeeds in that regard. Glad to hear you&#8217;re as into it as I am.</p>
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