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	<title>Comments on: Eden of the East (Higashi no Eden) first impressions</title>
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		<title>By: beyozXXIV</title>
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		<dc:creator>beyozXXIV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After three episodes I have to say this is shaping up to be my favorite series so far this season (although admittedly there isn&#039;t much else I&#039;m watching) and I think a lot of that is due to the fact it seems so different from everything else I&#039;ve seen in recent memory; like it&#039;s on a different wavelength or something. And I realized this before the Opening of Episode 1 was complete.

As an American living a (relative) stone&#039;s throw away from the Capital, it was kinda fun to see the story commence in a familiar setting for once. From tiny details like the Dulles Air &amp; Space Museum ad at the airport to the real American voice actors, I greatly appreciated all the visual intricacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After three episodes I have to say this is shaping up to be my favorite series so far this season (although admittedly there isn&#8217;t much else I&#8217;m watching) and I think a lot of that is due to the fact it seems so different from everything else I&#8217;ve seen in recent memory; like it&#8217;s on a different wavelength or something. And I realized this before the Opening of Episode 1 was complete.</p>
<p>As an American living a (relative) stone&#8217;s throw away from the Capital, it was kinda fun to see the story commence in a familiar setting for once. From tiny details like the Dulles Air &amp; Space Museum ad at the airport to the real American voice actors, I greatly appreciated all the visual intricacy.</p>
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		<title>By: ETERNAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETERNAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;ve all realized by now that the plot holds a lot of potential, but it&#039;s good that you pointed out the first thing that drew me to the series: the originality. It doesn&#039;t feel like a carbon copy of any other anime, which is quite an accomplishment, and there&#039;s more to the show than its potentially excellent storyline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;ve all realized by now that the plot holds a lot of potential, but it&#8217;s good that you pointed out the first thing that drew me to the series: the originality. It doesn&#8217;t feel like a carbon copy of any other anime, which is quite an accomplishment, and there&#8217;s more to the show than its potentially excellent storyline.</p>
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		<title>By: OGT</title>
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		<dc:creator>OGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin: Ah, okay. I know that there&#039;s a lot of people who think that the religious/philosophical themes of &lt;i&gt;Eva&lt;/i&gt; and other anime series are complete bunk, but I see where it&#039;s coming from. I myself have that problem with people&#039;s treatment of &lt;i&gt;Eva&lt;/i&gt; exclusively from a Christian mythos standpoint (because, as you said, they missed the point of the &lt;i&gt;rest&lt;/i&gt; of the series).

I think the inclusion of any kind of religiomythical symbolism in anything is supposed to set a mythical/spiritual mood for the viewer and augment (or provide a structure for) more general themes, if one chooses to read it in that light. It might help to think of such things as intellectual fanservice, which tends to be what it is.

I don&#039;t debunk the political thriller elements (those are just as good), but whoever&#039;s running Selecao clearly has a Messiah complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin: Ah, okay. I know that there&#8217;s a lot of people who think that the religious/philosophical themes of <i>Eva</i> and other anime series are complete bunk, but I see where it&#8217;s coming from. I myself have that problem with people&#8217;s treatment of <i>Eva</i> exclusively from a Christian mythos standpoint (because, as you said, they missed the point of the <i>rest</i> of the series).</p>
<p>I think the inclusion of any kind of religiomythical symbolism in anything is supposed to set a mythical/spiritual mood for the viewer and augment (or provide a structure for) more general themes, if one chooses to read it in that light. It might help to think of such things as intellectual fanservice, which tends to be what it is.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t debunk the political thriller elements (those are just as good), but whoever&#8217;s running Selecao clearly has a Messiah complex.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ghostlightning: yeah, this needs moar giant robots. You&#039;ve just reminded me I need to check out that new Mazinger Z show...

@coburn: there&#039;s not much info concerning the film, but given the length of the TV show I&#039;m really happy about it too!

@Kabitzin: rewatching is great for little details like that. I think I&#039;ll go back and look into those more closely...they could be important perhaps. *shrugs*

@Hanners: there&#039;s a lot brewing away in this story but I can remember how tightly plotted the GitS SAC was so yeah, my hopes are still high. Coolest op and end sequences I&#039;ve seen in a while, too.

@hashi: the chemistry between the two leads is the biggest draw for me until the backstory becomes clearer. Akira&#039;s entertaining because you never know what he&#039;s going to do next but I still think Saki&#039;s adorable! ^_^

@vendredi: yeah, the character designs are great. A lot of people are likening them to Honey and Clover, but I still haven&#039;t watched much of that yet, to my shame.

@OGT: the problem I found with NGE (this is going back a number of years now) is that the religious symbolism and jargon was intended to look and sound exotic and cool, but it distracted so many Western viewers that many missed the main messages of the show (principally the psychology and character study). There&#039;s plenty familiar-sounding terminology here too, which is why I was reluctant to attach too much meaning to it, in case I got carried away and put two and two together to make five. Of course, the Ludlum references may be just as important or, conversely, a red herring, but I felt more comfortable analysing the political side rather than the religious one. ETERNAL made a wonderful job of the latter anyway, so I don&#039;t feel the need now anyway!

@Peter S: there were a few WTF? moments but I found the humour and dialogue was just enough to carry it into the second episode; the dialogue of which was, as you say, worth the wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ghostlightning: yeah, this needs moar giant robots. You&#8217;ve just reminded me I need to check out that new Mazinger Z show&#8230;</p>
<p>@coburn: there&#8217;s not much info concerning the film, but given the length of the TV show I&#8217;m really happy about it too!</p>
<p>@Kabitzin: rewatching is great for little details like that. I think I&#8217;ll go back and look into those more closely&#8230;they could be important perhaps. *shrugs*</p>
<p>@Hanners: there&#8217;s a lot brewing away in this story but I can remember how tightly plotted the GitS SAC was so yeah, my hopes are still high. Coolest op and end sequences I&#8217;ve seen in a while, too.</p>
<p>@hashi: the chemistry between the two leads is the biggest draw for me until the backstory becomes clearer. Akira&#8217;s entertaining because you never know what he&#8217;s going to do next but I still think Saki&#8217;s adorable! ^_^</p>
<p>@vendredi: yeah, the character designs are great. A lot of people are likening them to Honey and Clover, but I still haven&#8217;t watched much of that yet, to my shame.</p>
<p>@OGT: the problem I found with NGE (this is going back a number of years now) is that the religious symbolism and jargon was intended to look and sound exotic and cool, but it distracted so many Western viewers that many missed the main messages of the show (principally the psychology and character study). There&#8217;s plenty familiar-sounding terminology here too, which is why I was reluctant to attach too much meaning to it, in case I got carried away and put two and two together to make five. Of course, the Ludlum references may be just as important or, conversely, a red herring, but I felt more comfortable analysing the political side rather than the religious one. ETERNAL made a wonderful job of the latter anyway, so I don&#8217;t feel the need now anyway!</p>
<p>@Peter S: there were a few WTF? moments but I found the humour and dialogue was just enough to carry it into the second episode; the dialogue of which was, as you say, worth the wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For scenes like the young couple&#039;s long talk in ep2 I&#039;ll forgive a lot of things, most of them you mentioned.  I&#039;d add: WTF was Saki doing throwing ANYTHING at the white house?  That suggests naivete on a high level, center of the world (hmm ...) though it might be.  And why the cops weren&#039;t on her the moment she did it ...  Well, as I said, I forgive a lot when I get a scene like ep2&#039;s chat.  Not only did it feel natural, but it was pretty long, yet relaxed, not dull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For scenes like the young couple&#8217;s long talk in ep2 I&#8217;ll forgive a lot of things, most of them you mentioned.  I&#8217;d add: WTF was Saki doing throwing ANYTHING at the white house?  That suggests naivete on a high level, center of the world (hmm &#8230;) though it might be.  And why the cops weren&#8217;t on her the moment she did it &#8230;  Well, as I said, I forgive a lot when I get a scene like ep2&#8217;s chat.  Not only did it feel natural, but it was pretty long, yet relaxed, not dull.</p>
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		<title>By: OGT</title>
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		<dc:creator>OGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still having trouble how you could possibly have watched a series titled &lt;i&gt;Eden of the East&lt;/i&gt; and watched an opening sequence with the words &quot;Messiah&quot;, &quot;savior&quot;, and &quot;Lord&quot; that is also populated with rather (deliciously) blatant references to Biblical numerology (12 chosen from Japan) and been totally oblivious to any potential religious underpinnings of the plot. That got me far more interested than &lt;i&gt;The Ludlum Reference&lt;/i&gt; (surely there&#039;s a Robert Ludlum title generator out there somewhere, it&#039;s not very difficult), mostly because I can&#039;t understand how I made it through all three &lt;i&gt;Bourne&lt;/i&gt; books (I can&#039;t even remember what happened in them and forgot I read them) and I hated the first movie.

I&#039;m working on my own crazy Judeochristognostico theories (possibly to be reported when I can actually confirm/deny the theories), but I tend to have a ball with such things because I spent semesters of school mired in the Scriptures in at least one class (canonical and non) so such thought comes easy to me. You mentioned over at ETERNAL&#039;s post that you&#039;re &quot;skeptical&quot; of &quot;religious references&quot; in anime post-&lt;em&gt;Evangelion&lt;/em&gt;--is there a particular reason for that? I&#039;ve not seen &lt;i&gt;Eva&lt;/i&gt; in years and I need to rewatch it, and I know that the religious symbolism in it is hotly contested (and has been for years), but I&#039;ve never heard anyone give a rational argument for either the &quot;religious symbolism in anime lol&quot; or the &quot;philosophy references in anime lol&quot; arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still having trouble how you could possibly have watched a series titled <i>Eden of the East</i> and watched an opening sequence with the words &#8220;Messiah&#8221;, &#8220;savior&#8221;, and &#8220;Lord&#8221; that is also populated with rather (deliciously) blatant references to Biblical numerology (12 chosen from Japan) and been totally oblivious to any potential religious underpinnings of the plot. That got me far more interested than <i>The Ludlum Reference</i> (surely there&#8217;s a Robert Ludlum title generator out there somewhere, it&#8217;s not very difficult), mostly because I can&#8217;t understand how I made it through all three <i>Bourne</i> books (I can&#8217;t even remember what happened in them and forgot I read them) and I hated the first movie.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on my own crazy Judeochristognostico theories (possibly to be reported when I can actually confirm/deny the theories), but I tend to have a ball with such things because I spent semesters of school mired in the Scriptures in at least one class (canonical and non) so such thought comes easy to me. You mentioned over at ETERNAL&#8217;s post that you&#8217;re &#8220;skeptical&#8221; of &#8220;religious references&#8221; in anime post-<em>Evangelion</em>&#8211;is there a particular reason for that? I&#8217;ve not seen <i>Eva</i> in years and I need to rewatch it, and I know that the religious symbolism in it is hotly contested (and has been for years), but I&#8217;ve never heard anyone give a rational argument for either the &#8220;religious symbolism in anime lol&#8221; or the &#8220;philosophy references in anime lol&#8221; arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: vendredi</title>
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		<dc:creator>vendredi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pretty skeptical at the initial trailer offerings, but yeah, this first episode blew me away. I have to agree with some of the other comments, &quot;playful&quot; is an apt descriptor. I think what keeps the tension off is partly also the Chika Umino character design: they&#039;re capable of very subtle expressions but are still very light-hearted looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pretty skeptical at the initial trailer offerings, but yeah, this first episode blew me away. I have to agree with some of the other comments, &#8220;playful&#8221; is an apt descriptor. I think what keeps the tension off is partly also the Chika Umino character design: they&#8217;re capable of very subtle expressions but are still very light-hearted looking.</p>
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		<title>By: hashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>hashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful review. &quot;Playfulness&quot; is a perfect word. Yes to the pacing. And I think I have a partial explanation for why you find Saki so interesting. For me, it&#039;s partly the way that Hayami Saori is playing the character: her beautiful and precise voice on the one hand, and her ability to convey both vulnerability and a rising eagerness on the other. Hayami-san is only 17, has had roles in Touka Gettan (Momoka), Wagaya no Oinarisama (Kou), and Sekirei (Musubi), and is my avatar here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful review. &#8220;Playfulness&#8221; is a perfect word. Yes to the pacing. And I think I have a partial explanation for why you find Saki so interesting. For me, it&#8217;s partly the way that Hayami Saori is playing the character: her beautiful and precise voice on the one hand, and her ability to convey both vulnerability and a rising eagerness on the other. Hayami-san is only 17, has had roles in Touka Gettan (Momoka), Wagaya no Oinarisama (Kou), and Sekirei (Musubi), and is my avatar here.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t really add anything to your comments about this show so far, it&#039;s certainly shaping up to be a winner.  To think, I very nearly didn&#039;t pick up this series initially based on the artwork and character design, but the plot won me over and I&#039;m certainly glad it did.

Eden of the East certainly looks like it intends on serving up an eclectic and heady mix - Can a single show really put together romance, intrigue, action and conspiracy into one show without screwing it up?  Normally I wouldn&#039;t have said no, but these opening episodes look set to prove me wrong.

There aren&#039;t many series that I&#039;ll sit and watch the OP and ED of every single time either, but I think this show is going to be one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t really add anything to your comments about this show so far, it&#8217;s certainly shaping up to be a winner.  To think, I very nearly didn&#8217;t pick up this series initially based on the artwork and character design, but the plot won me over and I&#8217;m certainly glad it did.</p>
<p>Eden of the East certainly looks like it intends on serving up an eclectic and heady mix &#8211; Can a single show really put together romance, intrigue, action and conspiracy into one show without screwing it up?  Normally I wouldn&#8217;t have said no, but these opening episodes look set to prove me wrong.</p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t many series that I&#8217;ll sit and watch the OP and ED of every single time either, but I think this show is going to be one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kabitzin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kabitzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, his passport fake name shoulda been Matoko Daimyo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, his passport fake name shoulda been Matoko Daimyo.</p>
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